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Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:12 pm

Risen from the Depths (energy unconfirmed)
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 248 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 3 Gem [or 1,500 Soldier Valor(SV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 744 energy, you will have earned one Tier 3 Gem [or 1,500 Soldier Valor(SV)] . Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.

Attack at Dawn = 473 waves(confirmed)= 946 energy
11- 15 characters required to run Raid for free (11 if all 42 starting energy to 15 if all 20 starting energy, somewhere in between if mix of starting energy).
Raid Total Rewards= approx. 2375 Soldier Valor(SV) [or 1.6 Tier 3 Gem] and approx. 862 Hero Tokens(HT)
24 Gold Shields = replaces 1 of 15 free Soldier's Sigil characters(20 starting energy) = 72 energy = approx. 180 Soldier Valor(SV) [or 0.12 Tier 3 Gem] and approx. 65 Hero Tokens in rewards.
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 200 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 3 Gem [or 1,500 Soldier Valor(SV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 600 energy, you will have earned one Tier 3 Gem [or 1,500 Soldier Valor(SV)]. Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.

Cursed Keep = 711 waves(confirmed)= 1,422 energy
17- 20 characters to run Raid for free (17 if all 42 starting energy to 20 if all 26 starting energy, somewhere in between if mix of starting energy).
Raid Total Rewards= approx. 3,568 Knight Valor(KV) [or 1.2 Tier 4 Gem] and approx. 1,576 Hero Tokens(HT)
24 Gold Shields = replaces 1 of 20 free Knight's Sigil characters(26 starting energy) = 72 energy = approx. 180 Knight Valor(KV) [or 0.06 Tier 4 Gem] and approx. 80 Hero Tokens in rewards.
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 400 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 1,200 energy, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)] . Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.

Vale of the Ice Dragon (energy unconfirmed)
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 333 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 999 energy, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)] . Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.

Forgotten Sentinels (energy unconfirmed)
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 285 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 855 energy, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)] . Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.

War of Fellmarsh (energy unconfirmed- Thank you Romain & skyy)
If you "Burn" Gold Shields in this Raid, when you reach approx. 248 Gold Shields, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)]. If you spend only free energy in this Raid, when you reach approx. 744 energy, you will have earned one Tier 4 Gem [or 3,000 Knight Valor(KV)] . Note: This is like Miles Per Gallon, a metric to compare Raid Rewards.


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Reference Table

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:13 pm

- >Risen from the Depths, Metrics: ~248gs per T3 Gem or ~744e per T3 Gem.
- >Attack at Dawn, 120 min, 946 energy, 11-15 char, Rewards ~2,375 SV (1.6 T3 Gem) & ~862 HT, 24gs= ~180 SV (0.12 T3 Gem) & ~65 HT. Metrics: ~200gs per T3 Gem. ~600e per T3 Gem.

- >Cursed Keep, 120 min, 1,422 energy, 17-20 char, Rewards ~3,568 KV (1.2 T4 Gem) & ~1,576 HT, 24gs= ~180 KV (0.06 T4 Gem) & ~80 HT. Metrics: ~400gs per T4 Gem. ~1,200e per T4 Gem.
- >Vale of the Ice Dragon, Metrics: ~333gs per T4 Gem. ~999e per T4 Gem.
- >Forgotten Sentinels, Metrics: ~285gs per T4 Gem or ~855e per T4 Gem.
- >War of Fellmarsh, Metrics: ~248gs per T4 Gem or ~744e per T4 Gem.
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Sigil Equations

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:14 pm

Sigil Equations:

12 energy +2 (Sigil of Vigor- Silver Coin) +2 (Squire's Sigil- Squire Valor[sqV])= 16 starting energy for free Squire's Sigil characters.
12 energy +2 (Sigil of Vigor- Silver Coin) +2 (Squire's Sigil- Squire Valor[sqV]) +4 (Soldier's Sigil- Soldier Valor[SV])= 20 starting energy for free Soldier's Sigil characters.
12 energy +2 (Sigil of Vigor- Silver Coin) +2 (Squire's Sigil- Squire Valor[sqV]) +4 (Soldier's Sigil- Soldier Valor[SV]) +6 (Knight's Sigil- Knight Valor[KV]) = 26 starting energy for free Knight's Sigil characters.
12 energy +2 (Sigil of Vigor- Silver Coin) +2 (Squire's Sigil- Squire Valor[sqV]) +4 (Soldier's Sigil- Soldier Valor[SV]) +6 (Knight's Sigil- Knight Valor[KV]) +2 (Hero's Sigil- 10 Gold Shields) +4 (Sigil of Vitality- 70 Gold Shields) +10 (Sigil of Endless Zeal- 180 Gold Shields)= 42 starting energy for Max Energy Characters
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Two Hour Raid Equations

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:14 pm

Two Hour Raid Equations:
Attack at Dawn = 473 waves (Forum)/ 473.0000 exact (Bj calculated from Raid RPP)= 946 energy
Cursed Keep = 711 waves (Forum)/ 711.0000 exact (Bj calculated from Raid RPP)= 1,422 energy

Full 2 hour Raid
(120 minutes -5 minutes for final kill ) / 2.5 minutes per energy = 46 energy regenerated during Raid.
62 energy per free sqV character
66 energy per free SV character
72 energy per free KV character
88 energy per Max Energy character

Half 2 hour Raid
60 minutes / 2.5 minutes per energy = 24 energy regenerated during Raid.
66 energy per Max Energy character




Attack at Dawn
946 energy/ 88 energy per Max Energy Character = 11 (10.75)
946 waves / 66 energy per free Soldier Sigil character = 15 (14.33)
946 waves / 66 energy per Max Energy Character in half 2 hour raid (60 minute)= 14.33 or <=14 at half way point requires burn

INT(66 energy from free SV character / 12 energy)+1 * 4 Gold Shields (most efficient price per energy)= 24 Gold Shields
Max character RPP from recent raid
66,305 Raid RPP/ 4075 character RPP
146 Soldier Valor(SV) reward
53 Hero Token(HT) reward

Raid= ~2375 Soldier Valor(SV) [or 1.6 Tier 3 Gem] and ~862 Hero Tokens(HT)
24 Gold Shields = 1 of 15 free Soldier Sigil character = 72 energy = ~180 SV (or 0.12 Tier 3 Gem) and ~65 Hero Tokens
~200 Gold Shields per Tier 3 Gem or ~600 energy




Cursed Keep
1422 energy/ 88 energy per Max Energy Character = 17 (16.16)
1422 waves / 72 energy per free Knight Sigil character = 20 (19.75)
1422 waves / 66 energy per Max Energy Character in half 2 hour raid (60 minute)= 21.55 or <=21 at half way point requires burn

72 energy from free KV character / 12 energy * 4 Gold Shields (most efficient price per energy)= 24 Gold Shields
Max character RPP from recent raid
101,150 Raid RPP/ 8125 character RPP
344 Knight Valor(KV) reward / 1.2 bonus= 286.66 KV
152 Hero Token(HT) reward/ 1.2 bonus= 126.66 HT

Raid= ~3,568 Knight Valor(KV) [or 1.2 Tier 4 Gem] and ~1,576 Hero Tokens(HT)
24 Gold Shields= 1 of 20 free Knight Sigil character = 72 energy = ~180 KV (or 0.06 Tier 4 Gem) and ~80 Hero Tokens
~400 Gold Shields per Tier 4 Gem or ~1,2000 energy
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Three Hour Raid Equations

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:15 pm

Three Hour Raid Equations:
Vale of the Ice Dragon = 1150 waves (Forum)/ unconfirmed (Bj)= 2,300 energy

Full 3 hour Raid
(180 minutes -5 minutes for final kill ) / 2.5 minutes per energy = 70 energy regenerated during Raid.
86 energy per free sqV character
90 energy per free SV character
96 energy per free KV character
112 energy per Max Energy character

Half 3 hour Raid
90 minutes / 2.5 minutes per energy = 36 energy regenerated during Raid.
78 energy per Max Energy character




Risen from the Depths (unconfirmed, Bj lost paperwork)
Total rewards for Risen from the Depths appears to be approx. 2,160 Soldier Valor(SV) and approx. 865 Hero Tokens(HT).
536wv * 2 energy = 1072 energy
Metrics: ~ 248gs per T3 ~744e per T3




Vale of the Ice Dragon
2,300 energy/ 112 energy per Max Energy Character = 21 (20.54)
2,300 energy / 96 energy per free Knight's Sigil character = 24 (23.96)
2,300 energy / 78 energy per Max Energy Character in half 3 hour raid (90 minute)= 29.49 or <=29 at half way point requires burn

96 energy from free KV character / 12 energy * 4 Gold Shields (most efficient price per energy)= 32 Gold Shields
Max character RPP from recent raid
160,675 Raid RPP/ 7075 character RPP
304 Knight Valor(KV) reward
122 Hero Token(HT) reward

Raid= ~6,903 Knight Valor(KV) [or 2.3 Tier 4 Gem] and ~2,770 Hero Tokens(HT)
32 Gold Shields = 1 of 24 free Knight Sigil character = 96 energy = ~288 KV (or 0.096 T4 Gem) and ~115 Hero Tokens
~333 Gold Shields per Tier 4 Gem or ~999 energy
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Four Hour Raid Equations

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:16 pm

Four Hour Raid Equations:
Forgotten Sentinels = 1432 waves (Forum)/ unconfirmed (Bj)= 2,864 energy

Full 4 hour Raid
(240 minutes -5 minutes for final kill ) / 2.5 minutes per energy = 94 energy regenerated during Raid.
110 energy per free sqV character
114 energy per free SV character
120 energy per free KV character
136 energy per Max Energy character

Half 4 hour Raid
120 minutes / 2.5 minutes per energy = 48 energy regenerated during Raid.
90 energy per Max Energy character




Forgotten Senitnels
2,864 energy/ 136 energy per Max Energy Character = 22 (21.05)
2,864 energy / 120 energy per free Knight's Sigil character = 24 (23.87)
2,864 energy / 90 energy per Max Energy Character in half 4 hour raid (120 minute)= 31.82 or <=31 at half way point requires burn

120 energy from free KV character / 12 energy * 4 Gold Shields (most efficient price per energy)= 40 Gold Shields
Max character RPP from recent raid
196,895 Raid RPP/ 12,794 (11,125 * 1.15 Bonus) character RPP
652 Knight Valor(KV) reward
242 Hero Token(HT) reward

Raid= ~10,034 Knight Valor(KV) [or 3.33 Tier 4 Gem] and ~3,724 Hero Tokens(HT)
40 Gold Shields = 1 of 24 free Knight Sigil character = 120 energy = ~420 KV (or 0.14 T4 Gem) and ~156 Hero Tokens
~285 Gold Shields per Tier 4 Gem or ~855 energy




War of Fellmarsh (Thank you Romain & skyy )
Reported total rewards are 11,456 Knight Valor(KV) (3.8 T4 Gem), 4,009 Hero Tokens(HT)
1430 fights= 2860 energy
Metrics: ~250gs per T4, ~750e per T4
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Thank you

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:27 pm

Thank you Romain and skyy for sharing your data.

Thank you to Warriors of the SPOON, Claymore, Celestial Being, Farful, Wolfspack, The Kingdom, Akatsuki Red Clouds, Brothers of the Twirled Mustache, Guild that Stares at Goats, Bladeworx for letting me Merc with you and collect data for this article.
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Re: Four Hour Raid Equations

Postby Romain » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 am

BjofCJandBj wrote:Forgotten Sentinels [...]
Raid= ~10,034 Knight Valor(KV) [or 3.33 Tier 4 Gem] and ~3,724 Hero Tokens(HT)

If it can help you, the values we have in Kotor for WoF are 1430 fights, 11456 KV, 4009 HT. I checked the ones we have for FS and they are pretty much the same as yours (1432 fights, 10024 KV, 3723 HT).
So WoF gives about 15% more rewards than FS (all our figures courtesy of skyy ;~)).
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