CrackaG wrote:Lets do the math on this. Lets say a 1200 wave raid with 30 people at say 18 stam. That is 270 attacks. 45 min to refill. Another 270 attacks. Total at 540. Another 45 min. Guild raid time at 1 hour and a half. 810 attacks. That time frame is way past gold. So silver is the norm now. Now say 30 people at 50 stam. Thats 750 attacks. About 2 hours to full. So 1 hour and thrity min for gold you would have to attack again with everyone again with 30stam. 15 attacks each person 450 attacks. Raid was at 1200 waves. No way get gold unless everyone spent gs. Oh and 30 stam is 1.25 hours. Well it will be close. Check my math on that.

Cracka,

I'm not certain which raid you are referring too, also the 18 stam is low for every toon to begin with, but here is a specific example:

VG currently has ~2010 waves (it could be a bit more but I have been unable to pin down the exact number--stop dying or leaving the raid people..especially when you do it in combinations that allow for 2 or 3 wave scenarios!!

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40 Toons allowed

Gold is 2:20 minutes or 140 minutes

To Hit gold the Guild needs to burn 4020e in 140 minutes or roughly 28.71 e/min

There are several ways to do this, by e/unit time or by total E generated. Ill use total e as its conceptually easier.

(sorry guys, you all know how much I love equations)

E per toon: Etoon = Estart + Ereg where Ereg = 2* (140/5) : 140 minutes to gold / 5 minutes per 2e

Etoon = Estart + 56 (NOTE: ignoring E Regn enchant or elixirs...assuming all standard E regen rate)

Full 40 toons = 40*Estart + 2240 = 4020 e for gold in nick of time.

(Solve for Estart)

So the amount of E each of the full 40 toons needs at the beginning to hit Gold without burning:

Gold: Estart = 44.5e

Silver (40 minutes more): = 28.5e

To Hit Gold without burning, with no time margin, requires the Guild to fill all 40 spots with max e toons, with at least 26 of them Lvl 4 loyalty toons, who contribute e the whole time. Assuming a guild has 80 -100 members, and many Lvl4 or Lvl5 loyal members...this should be feasible.

Is it difficult: Hell yeah...impossible...nope, especially if you have 100 toons in a guild to choose from, to fill the raid.

Note Silver is quite reasonable.

Granted every Raid needs an analysis, but this is VG. Gold is feasible without burning, yes Gold is a challenge...I think its about right. (My opinion on this last statement)