Leaving a Dead Guild or Loyalty when switching

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Leaving a Dead Guild or Loyalty when switching

Postby Bj_Knows » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:05 am

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Leaving a Dead Guild or Loyalty when switching

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Leaving a Dead Guild or Guild "New" Prefix

Overview
A character gains the "New" prefix for 27 days after they switch Guilds,
they lose 5% Guild Loyalty immediately (Switch Penalty),
every 3 days they lose the same integer amount again (Switch Penalty),
at 27 days (-50% Guild Loyalty at the time of the original switch) they stop losing Guild Loyalty and they lose the "New" prefix.

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When your Guild dies, you have to find a new Guild. With the Merc Cap at 15, it can be difficult to join enough different Raids to try out a new Guild. After selecting your new Guild and losing 50% Guild Loyalty, you may discover some members, or Raids times, have X-Rated Guild Chat, unpublished Raid conduct rules, are dismissive of female gamers, routinely fail Raids or some other behavior you find unacceptable. But switching to another Guild will result in another 50% Guild Loyalty. In the worst case I personally know, a character left a dying Guild only to have the new Guild's GM boot everyone and dissolve the Guild, and then have the next Guild's GM do this also. Leaving the character with 12% of their original Guild Loyalty within a few short days.

The "New" prefix would appear when a character switches Guilds. The Server would record the character's Guild Loyalty, when they switched to Guild A, and 5% of that number would be their Switch Penalty. Immediately, they would lose Guild Loyalty equal to their Switch Penalty. Every 3 days with Guild A, they would lose an amount of Guild Loyalty equal to their Switch Penalty. If they were still with Guild A at the end of 27 days (-50% Guild Loyalty at time of switch), then they would stop losing Guild Loyalty and the "New" prefix would be removed.

Example (grossly simplified for illustration purposes only):
Agatha the First has 2700 cumulative Guild Loyalty,
she joins Guild A,
her Switch Penalty is 135, and she immediately loses 135 (now 2565),
after 2 days of unacceptable suggestive chat during the CoC Raid, she leaves,
she joins Guild B,
her Switch Penalty is 129, and she immediately loses 129 (now 2436)
after 7 days (-129 * 2) of failed Raids, or not enough people to start a WoF Raid, she leaves,
she joins Guild C,
her Switch Penalty is 109, and she immediately loses 109 (now 2069)
after 27 days (-109 * 9) she would be at 1088 (-50% Guild Loyalty at time of switch), but she is actually at 2300 due to her awesome Guild which is *just* right.

Every time the Server subtracts from a character's Guild Loyalty, the character would receive a BoH Mail reminding them of the Switch Penalty, the "New" prefix, and the time remaining on the "New" Prefix.

Daily 1% Option
The Daily Switch Penalty would be 1% of your Guild Loyalty when the character switched Guilds. Immediately upon switching Guilds, the character would lose their Initial Switch Penalty (5%), which is equal to 5 times their Daily Switch Penalty (1%). Every day for 45 days, they would lose their Daily Switch Penalty until -50% Guild Loyalty at time of their switch. On day 45 they would stop losing Guild Loyalty and lose the "New" prefix.
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Re: Leaving a Dead Guild or Guild "New" Prefix

Postby NikoNarf_1 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:30 pm

Sounds overly complicated... How about when joining a guild, one's loyalty becomes the larger of the following two quantities:
* 50% of the loyalty you had when leaving last guild
OR
* 100% of the loyalty you had when entering last guild

Example... Player joins guild A and collects 1000 loyalty. Player leaves A and joins B, loyalty is set to 500 (half of 1000). Player then only increases loyalty to 600 before deciding to join C. Since 500 is larger than 300 (half of 600), loyalty reverts to 500 when joining C. Player then increases loyalty to 1500 before joining D. Since 750 (half of 1500) is higher than 500, loyalty goes down to 750.
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Guild Hopping

Postby Bj_Knows » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:55 am

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Guild Hopping

FT_NikoNarf wrote:Sounds overly complicated... How about when joining a guild, one's loyalty becomes the larger of the following two quantities:
* 50% of the loyalty you had when leaving last guild
OR
* 100% of the loyalty you had when entering last guild


Your basis idea is good FT_NikoNarf.

I forgot one of the important points in my Post:
5% immediate penalty is to prevent Guild Hopping.

Unmodified, your solution would be good for characters. After reaching 5000 cumulative Guild Loyalty, it would allow you to join a new Guild after each Raid with almost no penalty (Guild Hopping). Ex: character acheives 5000 Guild Loyalty from Guild A, drops to 2500 when joining Guild B, which still gives you Perks 1- 4 (+10% Raid Rewards, +4 Max Energy, Guild Favors), but not Perk 5 (+4 Max Energy). Character switches Guilds after each Raid. Every time they switch to a new Guild, 2500 would be the larger number.

A modification of your basic idea could be, when leaving Guild A for Guild B:

If leaving Guild A, before 30 days in Guild A, then,
95% of the loyalty you had when entering Guild A,
or
50% of the loyalty you have when leaving Guild A,
whichever amount is greater.

if leaving Guild A, after 30 days in Guild A, then,
50% of the loyalty you have when leaving Guild A.

This would include a 5% penalty for Guild Hopping and give you 30 days to decide a Guild is not a good fit.
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