Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

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Crit Power, Rating & Hard Cap, Resists

Postby Bj_Knows » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Mithrid wrote:Tennis,
To the best of my studies, crit power does not create a ceiling range, it is a multiplier to final damage:
Final damage = Regular attack (final calculation) * Crit power factor.
So for example: if an attack has a damage of 6000-6500, and your crit power is 180%
You can expect your crit damage to be roughly 1.8* (6000-6500) = 10800 - 11700.


Crit Power is 150%- 200% for Crit Power Rating, but this is versus a Monster of the same Level. My Crit Power 175% versus Level 30 Monster goes to 180-185% versus Level 4 Monsters.

After adjusting your Crit Power from Crit Power Rating versus Monster Level (Rating Cap 200%), then you have to add any bonus from class ability, Elixir, and Crafted Potion (Hard Cap 300%).

Unfortunately, the BoH client does not currently display the correct Crit Power from Modifiers unless you are fighting Monsters of the same level.

To further complicate things, the damage you see is after the Monster's Attack Type Resist. Ex: Incinerate rank 3 versus Iron Basilisk is reduced by its Fire Resist.

Note: Ice Creatures have a negative Fire Resist and Flame Creatures have a negative Ice Resist. Ex: Iron Basilisk has Ice Resist -50% so my Ice Lance does +50% damage.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby Possessed_Mithrid » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:32 pm

Bj_DWR wrote:Crit Power is 150%- 200% for Crit Power Rating, but this is versus a Monster of the same Level. My Crit Power 175% versus Level 30 Monster goes to 180-185% versus Level 4 Monsters.

Unfortunately, the BoH client does not currently display the correct Crit Power from Modifiers unless you are fighting Monsters of the same level.



This I had never noticed. Thanks.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby EricM » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:47 pm

Are there likewise any creatures with negative spirit resist? Cause otherwise, hybrid warmages have a huge leg up in fire n ice locales.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby Jumper » Fri May 03, 2013 11:56 pm

Mith, this is awesome! Thanks! (And everyone else of course! )
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby EricM » Sun May 12, 2013 3:13 pm

Phys/Magic Resist
3329 - 17.23%
3044 - 16.57%
2860 - 15.88%
2675 - 15.17%
2490 - 14.42%
2213 - 13.24%
1720 - 10.94%
1443 - 09.51%
0950 - 06.70%
0827 - 05.93%
0765 - 05.54%
0704 - 05.14%
0580 - 04.32%
0519 - 03.90%
0334 - 02.58%

Not sure how much this helps, but who knows, it might ;)
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby Possessed_Mithrid » Sun May 12, 2013 5:19 pm

Fizz, can you provide a bit of info...Lvl Toon, SW/WM/Justi and how many Phys Res Hero Tokens were invested when you took these numbers? Also, did you have Guild Favors when you collected them?
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby EricM » Sun May 12, 2013 5:42 pm

Mithrid wrote:Fizz, can you provide a bit of info...Lvl Toon, SW/WM/Justi and how many Phys Res Hero Tokens were invested when you took these numbers? Also, did you have Guild Favors when you collected them?
Thanks,
Mith


Lv 30 SW, 31 enchant levels, +334 hero training in phys/mag resist. I do have guild favors unlocked, but these numbers are without guild favors. Just the base.

If you need more data, let me know. I have quite a few t3,4,5 resist gems I can play around with.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby Click » Mon May 13, 2013 10:37 am

Fizz_Eric wrote:
Mithrid wrote:Fizz, can you provide a bit of info...Lvl Toon, SW/WM/Justi and how many Phys Res Hero Tokens were invested when you took these numbers? Also, did you have Guild Favors when you collected them?
Thanks,
Mith


Lv 30 SW, 31 enchant levels, +334 hero training in phys/mag resist. I do have guild favors unlocked, but these numbers are without guild favors. Just the base.

If you need more data, let me know. I have quite a few t3,4,5 resist gems I can play around with.


Thank you! This sort of contribution is very useful :)

To make sure, your rating values are not what it says on your stat sheet? Those numbers on the right have already been increased by favors.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby EricM » Mon May 13, 2013 11:02 am

AoW_McLovin wrote:
Fizz_Eric wrote:
Mithrid wrote:Fizz, can you provide a bit of info...Lvl Toon, SW/WM/Justi and how many Phys Res Hero Tokens were invested when you took these numbers? Also, did you have Guild Favors when you collected them?
Thanks,
Mith


Lv 30 SW, 31 enchant levels, +334 hero training in phys/mag resist. I do have guild favors unlocked, but these numbers are without guild favors. Just the base.

If you need more data, let me know. I have quite a few t3,4,5 resist gems I can play around with.


Thank you! This sort of contribution is very useful :)

To make sure, your rating values are not what it says on your stat sheet? Those numbers on the right have already been increased by favors.


No, this is Without Guild Favors. The favors are the green modifier number underneath. These values are the base stat that isn't in green.
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Re: Stat Calculations and Diminishing Returns

Postby Click » Mon May 13, 2013 1:55 pm

Fizz_Eric wrote:
AoW_McLovin wrote:
Fizz_Eric wrote:
Lv 30 SW, 31 enchant levels, +334 hero training in phys/mag resist. I do have guild favors unlocked, but these numbers are without guild favors. Just the base.

If you need more data, let me know. I have quite a few t3,4,5 resist gems I can play around with.


Thank you! This sort of contribution is very useful :)

To make sure, your rating values are not what it says on your stat sheet? Those numbers on the right have already been increased by favors.


No, this is Without Guild Favors. The favors are the green modifier number underneath. These values are the base stat that isn't in green.


What I meant was that the non-percentage numbers are already increased by favors.

So if it says you have 3000 Physical Resist and you have a guild favor, your actual resist value before favors is 3000/1.1, rounded up. Otherwise the values on the right will correspond to the green percentages.

Thank you again for providing this info :D, I just want to make sure I understand the data correctly. I don't have many resist gems myself so I couldn't get enough data on my own!
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